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HiMEs DID become IMMORTAL [THEORY]

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HiMEs DID become IMMORTAL [THEORY]

Post by The Fire Stirring Ruby on Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:01 am

(Nevermind, this theory is really foolish in the purest sense.)


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Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:04 pm

It's a pretty insightful theory, Ruby. It goes back to the many discussions in the past about the connection between Mai-HiME and Mai-Otome. Even if the immortal theory were true, how come Shizuru Fujino and Natsuki Kuga aren't alive? The thought of them bearing children is going to break a lot of hearts in the ShizuNatsu community. :lol:

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Post by The Fire Stirring Ruby on Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:25 pm

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:Even if the immortal theory were true, how come Shizuru Fujino and Natsuki Kuga aren't alive? The thought of them bearing children is going to break a lot of hearts in the ShizuNatsu community. :lol:

I hadn't thought about that! lol!

Well, like what I have said earlier, it was just only a guess. Nothing more than a guess... *starts to think a la Jimmy Neutron

As we have seen the incarnations of Natsuki Kuga and Shizuru Fujino, their relations are even more known and... (I couldn't think of any other word than this) INTIMATE. Yes, they were hesistant of having children at first but continually accept since they will die at the same time and their incarnations continued their intimate relations with each other. ANOTHER GUESS ONLY.

((Was Arika's grandmother still alive all throughout the MO series?))

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Re: HiMEs DID become IMMORTAL [THEORY]

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:38 pm

The Fire Stirring Ruby wrote:As we have seen the incarnations of Natsuki Kuga and Shizuru Fujino, their relations are even more known and... (I couldn't think of any other word than this) INTIMATE. Yes, they were hesistant of having children at first but continually accept since they will die at the same time and their incarnations continued their intimate relations with each other. ANOTHER GUESS ONLY.

((Was Arika's grandmother still alive all throughout the MO series?))

^_^ Yes, Shizuru Viola and Natsuki Kruger are more intimate with each other. They're officially a couple in Mai-Otome (SUNRISE gave the fans what they wanted). So basically,you're saying Kuga and Fujino pretty much ensured everlasting love between their reincarnations? Then that only leaves me wondering where they obtained information about the immortality thing and knowing there will be new incarnations of themselves in the future.

((I thought Arika grandmother was dead, maybe I heard wrong. I've never seen her, and they never showed the photo Lena was holding in Sifr.))

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Post by Abicion on Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:50 pm

This is stretching it further than my The Entire First Season is Akane's Hallucination theory.

The only immortal character is Miyu. The other reappearing characters are simply a product of the story's revolving nature.

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Post by Guest on Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:16 pm

As she said, it is a theory. It's very interesting Ruby.

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Re: HiMEs DID become IMMORTAL [THEORY]

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:55 pm

I just wish Miyu had an interest in recalling memories, ala Old Indy from the forgettable The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Guess Tokiha, Kuga and the others never meant anything to her. Or maybe she had her mind wiped of those events. o_o;

Theory, theory, theory.

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Re: HiMEs DID become IMMORTAL [THEORY]

Post by The Fire Stirring Ruby on Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:30 pm

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:So basically,you're saying Kuga and Fujino pretty much ensured everlasting love between their reincarnations? Then that only leaves me wondering where they obtained information about the immortality thing and knowing there will be new incarnations of themselves in the future.

Luu-sama, remember Sakomizu?? Sakomizu and the District 1 knows almost everything about the HiMEs.... Sakomizu hid everything to Kuga, and he said it when everything's fine and well, or they thought to be...

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Re: HiMEs DID become IMMORTAL [THEORY]

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:09 pm

The Fire Stirring Ruby wrote:Luu-sama, remember Sakomizu?? Sakomizu and the District 1 knows almost everything about the HiMEs.... Sakomizu hid everything to Kuga, and he said it when everything's fine and well, or they thought to be...

Yes, I know Fro-teach. XD

He might be one of the characters to know what happens in the future. He'll need to reveal something big to Natsuki which has a major impact on the events leading up to Mai-Otome. If SUNRISE ever does make a complete "bridge".

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Re: HiMEs DID become IMMORTAL [THEORY]

Post by sarcastic-dog on Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:59 am

Have you ever read the stories by Ange Sinistre.

That's a theory almost similar to Ruby's.
She made a whole timeline for this:
Antipode (2009-2010):
This is mostly about Natsuki and Shizuru. Shizuru is still hunted down by the First District and Searrs. The girls learn a few important things about the legend of the HIME.
The Kyoto Hunt (set 2014)
The girls get hunted down by Searrs again and find out about a new project regarding their childs.
Searrs tries to generate those through a holo-projector and gives it's test subjects new abilities. The first Otome-prototype is born.
Searrs was able to get to the datas via the feds they had about the Obsidian Lord (he was computerized and programmed) They also had a list and family trees connecting to all HIME who ever had been on earth.

Mai Kisaki (set 3425)
This is a few years after MO...and I guess the author can summ it up better.

Takes place a few years after Mai Otome, and is a distant sequel to "The Kyoto Hunt." No relation to Otome Zwei. The final bridge is built between the Otome and HiME series. After seeing two 'comets' streak across the skies, the Otome of Garderobe assemble with the leaders of the world after discovering that Earth, previously thought to be an abandoned wasteland, is still home to a large host of the original Otome. Two of these old world maidens plead with Garderobe to assist them in a war that has raged for generations - a war against the HiME. While all goes well at first, the Ikusahime from the Final Carnival who have been resurrected as Otome begin to reawaken. Their HiME symbols return. They become split on which side they belong to. Civil war begins in Garderobe as Archmeister Viola rebels against Headmistress Kruger, each choosing opposite sides. And that's just one problem of many.

nao that is a theory which has a hand and a foot like we say in germany.
I found it rather interesting and it is definitly worth a read.

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Re: HiMEs DID become IMMORTAL [THEORY]

Post by Highman on Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:11 pm

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:
The Fire Stirring Ruby wrote:Luu-sama, remember Sakomizu?? Sakomizu and the District 1 knows almost everything about the HiMEs.... Sakomizu hid everything to Kuga, and he said it when everything's fine and well, or they thought to be...

Yes, I know Fro-teach. XD

He might be one of the characters to know what happens in the future. He'll need to reveal something big to Natsuki which has a major impact on the events leading up to Mai-Otome. If SUNRISE ever does make a complete "bridge".

You and me know Fro-teach and his merry teachings. None of you haven't notice about another characters needed to looked and that's Fumi Himeno. Mashiro maid and interim headmaster, her past is pretty good and there's a hint she maybe born into a noble family. She was in a village around Fuuka. must come here to see her possibly deceased relatives. We should make an main topic for theories about HiME/Otome altogether to save up space.

It's up to you Luu to make this happen.

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Re: HiMEs DID become IMMORTAL [THEORY]

Post by Guest on Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:28 pm

Abicion wrote:

The only immortal character is Miyu. The other reappearing characters are simply a product of the story's revolving nature.


Um yes. Mikoto is also immortal, good sir. :3

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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:55 pm

Well, this is what I've always thought:

- Having gone to Valhalla, Mashiro, Nagi and Fumi give Mikoto the duty as the Crystal Princess, with this being taken into consideration, whilst in Valhalla Fumi and Mashiro create the new gateway to Earl (remember in HiME Reito said they wanted to create a new world? One better than Earth?).

- With the new world of Earl created, Fumi and Mashiro go back to Earth but in hiding, waiting for the Migration Era.

Mai Otome Special - Arika and Eristin go to Fuuka Academy
- A spaceship is seen in the background.

- With the Migration Era nao in full swing, the legendary project of the Humans 'Mai MAiD' begins, along with the creation of the GEMs, Robes, Elements and the Harmonium, all suited to HiME reincarnations.

- Yuma is created and hidden in space.

- Year 0-10, the Twelve Kingdom War, the settling of the Humans on Earl and the fight for who gets Otomes. Another possible HiME Matsuri.

- The MAiDs are renamed Otome.

- Knowing her powers could destroy the connection to Mikoto, the Crystal Princess, and lastly, destroying Earl's spiritual connection to Earth, Mashiro makes it forbidden for the Kazahana royal family to breed like rabbits, having become known as the 'Arch Weaver', the Harmonium user.

- Mashiro places Mikoto as the Harmonium guardian just before her death, having been Fumi's Master there is a possibility Fumi was killed during the TKW.

HiME Childs: Mashiro is the supposed Child of Fumi.

- Schwartz make a copy of the Pure White Diamond, the Ultimate Black Diamond to control the Harmonium, having gotten hold of the ancient records of the First District who later became Schwartz.

- The Harmonium rips the Black Valley apart, putting the Cat Fumi Mountain into a continuous time-ring, the 'sacred land' of the Schwartz. Enabling Mikoto her continued guardianship of the Harmonium, due to its energy being centred onto her location.

- Miyu, who was put into Mashiro and Fumi's ownship looks for the Ultimate Black Diamond, protecting Alyssa Searrs' bloodline who are the wielders of the Harmonium. The key for the Kazahana's.

Harmonium: Key, Protector, Weaver.

- Schwartz are always on alert for Miyu, copying her database and abilities to create M9. With M9 they hope to capture a Kazahana and use her Weaver powers to their advantage.

Sifr events:

- Rena Sayers is born, the hybrid HiME/Otome.

- Rena enrolls to Garderobe, her Otome nanomachines instantly reigning chaos with her HiME powers, releasing unneeded amounts of waste energy.

- Schwartz learn of the mysteriously overpowered student; Rena Yumemiya.

- Schwartz make their move, making an alliance with Aswad.

- Miyu gives Rena the Sky Blue Sapphire, the Key GEM to the Harmonium, with this she is able to control her HiME and Otome powers properly, defeating M9 in the process.

- Sifr is revealed as a Kazahana Weaver.

- Schwartz and Aswad attack Fuuka/Wind Castle in an attempt to find the Harmonium, in the process Aswad kills Rena Sayers, Sifr and Bruce Wallace, which breaks their ties with Schwartz.

- Miyu manages to recover the Sky Blue Sapphire before it is sold on a black market.

- Princess Sakura passes her GEM over to Miyu, allowing the development of Arika's Robe to be formed.

- Nina is found by Sergay, the true Kazahana.

- Sakura leaves the Archduke, giving her child, Mashiro over to the Wind family.

- With the Sky Blue Sapphire improved, Miyu hands it over to Arika's grandmother.

- Miss Maria makes Natsuki the Headmistress.

Otome events:

- Arika enrolls to Garderobe, revealing the possibility of the Harmonium Key.

- Nina, Arika and Mashiro discover they have the same birthday.

- Schwartz begin gathering lost technology, having heard of the strange occurrences Garderobe is currently having.

- Nagi takes over Garderobe, reforming Schwartz' ultimate protect, the Valkyries.

- Nina becomes the Ultimate Black Diamond, the Kazahana Weaver.

- Arika unlocks Rena's standard abilities.

- Miyu reconnects the HiME technology to the 'Morning/HiME Star', passing over extra energy to the Otomes.

- Schwartz goes back into hiding, along with Nagi being imprisoned.

Zwei events:

- Yuma awakens, having been inside the meteorite debris, originally hidden in space for safe keeping.

- Slaves return to Earl, destroying everything in their path, having been caused by Yuma's appearance, having control over them.

- Nao and Nina search the old ruins, a spiritual shine Fumi and Mashiro had made to connect Earl with Earth, one of the original gateways through to Valhalla.

- Finding the Neptune Emerald, Nina is thrown into the old gateway.

The gateway, having had its spiritual energy damaged by the Harmonium teleports Nina to Cat Fumi Mountain, the area which Yuma moved to the middle of the ocean.

- Yuma is defeated by Mashiro, Arika and Nina. The Weaver, Key and Protector.

- Mai defeats Kagutsuchi who had been sealed due to becoming completely insane after his separation from Mai and the defeat of the Obsidian Lord. Kagutsuchi turns into a small flying cat, with his powers nao controlled he becomes another stable spiritual link to Earth and Earl.

- Natsuki forms the SOLT operation, the mission to make Otome eventually disappear.

- With the continuation of these shines keeping Earl stable, the Otome slowly vanish, along with Mikoto. Miyu might however, stay along to make sure Earl continues to stay safe, guarding the the Human race from any other threats.



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