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Post by The Fire Stirring Ruby on Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:17 pm

I have thought about this for a very long time and I would like to ask, which do you prefer for the animated series of My-HiME:

the ORIGINAL STORY, which was aired

or


the MANGA's story, which was the alternate universe

or

the My-HiME EXA's storyline

---------> :?: For me, it should be the ORIGINAL STORY but I would have loved it more if they made an alternate ending....


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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Abicion on Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:10 pm

It's hard to say. The manga plays itself as a straight action comedy (which is what the anime and manga were both supposed to be) and doesn't go out of the way to be mindnumbingly forced, but the anime presented a lot more interesting concepts (regardless of how well they were actually applied).

But where's EXA? There needs to be an option for EXA.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by The Fire Stirring Ruby on Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:22 pm

Abicion wrote:It's hard to say. The manga plays itself as a straight action comedy (which is what the anime and manga were both supposed to be) and doesn't go out of the way to be mindnumbingly forced, but the anime presented a lot more interesting concepts (regardless of how well they were actually applied).

But where's EXA? There needs to be an option for EXA.

Yes, you indeed have a point...

I forgot to include EXA.. ehehehe Razz
I'll edit it now...

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:08 pm

Mai-HiME EXA got right to the point, but I'll always prefer the Mai-HiME anime most. Give the manga some credit though, it wasn't as bad as people say. It was more exciting and over the top than the others.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Highman on Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:18 pm

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:Mai-HiME EXA got right to the point, but I'll always prefer the Mai-HiME anime most. Give the manga some credit though, it wasn't as bad as people say. It was more exciting and over the top than the others.

EXA made it more darker, short and good. Wished the ending could've been rushed and more better, but I would prefer the original and PS2 game as well. Hoping the whole saga will make more sense and backbone to the HiME's purpose.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Abicion on Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:17 pm

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:Mai-HiME EXA got right to the point
Yeah, and that's exactly why EXA is brilliant. When the plot revolves around a bunch of characters having to fight eachother to the death to ensure the safety of the planet and they have no other choice, you should get right to the point.

The show's methodology of "Let's spend well over half of the story thoroughly establishing that the characters are capable of putting their differences aside and can achieve victory through non-murderous means, then randomly have them start acting idiotic / insane for no reason so they allow themselves to be manipulated into fighting by people they know are manipulating them" falls on its face the moment you apply sort of any logic or overall context. Every single death in the anime comes out looking so stupid and avoidable that you really have to watch it as a dark comedy for it to work. The anime Festival arc is practically in its own universe, and it needed its own separate characters and continuity in order to be taken seriously. That's exactly what EXA does.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Highman on Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:16 pm

Abicion wrote:
Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:Mai-HiME EXA got right to the point
Yeah, and that's exactly why EXA is brilliant. When the plot revolves around a bunch of characters having to fight eachother to the death to ensure the safety of the planet and they have no other choice, you should get right to the point.

The show's methodology of "Let's spend well over half of the story thoroughly establishing that the characters are capable of putting their differences aside and can achieve victory through non-murderous means, then randomly have them start acting idiotic / insane for no reason so they allow themselves to be manipulated into fighting by people they know are manipulating them" falls on its face the moment you apply sort of any logic or overall context. Every single death in the anime comes out looking so stupid and avoidable that you really have to watch it as a dark comedy for it to work. The anime Festival arc is practically in its own universe, and it needed its own separate characters and continuity in order to be taken seriously. That's exactly what EXA does.

EXA should have continued anyway but original still does.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:30 pm

Abicion wrote:Yeah, and that's exactly why EXA is brilliant. When the plot revolves around a bunch of characters having to fight eachother to the death to ensure the safety of the planet and they have no other choice, you should get right to the point.

Aside from the basics of cool powers and materializing mecha beasts, the unique nature of Mai-HiME began with the Carnival arc. Before that was textbook MOTD stuff. So yeah, EXA did us a favor of sorts. Still, I do happen to enjoy the traditional monster-of-the-day formula so I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the Orphan/Searrs arc. o.o

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Highman on Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:55 pm

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:
Abicion wrote:Yeah, and that's exactly why EXA is brilliant. When the plot revolves around a bunch of characters having to fight eachother to the death to ensure the safety of the planet and they have no other choice, you should get right to the point.

Aside from the basics of cool powers and materializing mecha beasts, the unique nature of Mai-HiME began with the Carnival arc. Before that was textbook MOTD stuff. So yeah, EXA did us a favor of sorts. Still, I do happen to enjoy the traditional monster-of-the-day formula so I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the Orphan/Searrs arc. o.o

You should be thankful for Alyssa and Miyu to live another series. Now I can't wait to see the rivalry between Miyu and Akane. Hope Kazuya have to get a leash for his girlfriend.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Abicion on Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:45 am

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:Aside from the basics of cool powers and materializing mecha beasts, the unique nature of Mai-HiME began with the Carnival arc. Before that was textbook MOTD stuff.
Not really. Even before the Carnival, Mai HiME was basically a magical girl series that tried to put SCIENCE!!! behind it. Yes, it was loose SCIENCE!!!, but they justified things a tad more than "lol it's magic."

And the only reason the Searrs stuff isn't very deep is because the show kicks them out prematurely without even attempting to explain their actions.

Also, the Carnival arc isn't all that terribly original in itself, since I see it directly compared to Highlander and Battle Royale all the damn time. The sad part is, even with much better source material to rip off, the HiME anime doesn't even pull it off that well. Probably because it just plain doesn't belong in the story the show spent the first 16 episodes establishing.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Highman on Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:10 pm


We know SEARS is a global hungry corporation, that's their forte. But I'm reeling to know why District One (Iwasuka Pharmetisuiticals) and possibly other nobles want to obtain OL and wanting powers for themselves. It has always been gaining power and resources from other organizations. Science and Supernatural has been in cross paths and became factors to the story, that when the Materializing system has been born to learn, gain and control. HiME are not alone their are millions of more girls waiting to achieve greatness, accepting into world of no limits. That's why we love the Mai-franchise.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by The Fire Stirring Ruby on Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:51 am

Though I haven't read nor seen the Mai-HiME EXA manga, I'm sure that the animated version made the top spot for me. That's 100% sure.

I've read the manga version of this Mai-series, and for me it's cooler than I've expected and made me quite confused at first because of the new storyline. Other than that, it could have been a hit, but I don't know why many people/reviewers turned the manga down.

Sometimes, I preferred a Mai Tokiha seduced to the bad side and became a member of the Universe's 3 Greatest Young Beauties alongside with Marie Antoinette and Yang Guifei, serving the Obsidian Lord and Saeko Kuga alive with Alyssa as a little sister to Natsuki.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:25 am

The Fire Stirring Ruby wrote:Though I haven't read nor seen the Mai-HiME EXA manga,

You should! ^_~

The Fire Stirring Ruby wrote:but I don't know why many people/reviewers turned the manga down.

I wish I could say it was because the manga was less character driven than the anime, no, the real reason is no ShizuNatsu. Whether we like it or not, Shizuru and Natsuki make up a majority of Mai-fandom.

The Fire Stirring Ruby wrote:Sometimes, I preferred a Mai Tokiha seduced to the bad side and became a member of the Universe's 3 Greatest Young Beauties alongside with Marie Antoinette and Yang Guifei, serving the Obsidian Lord and Saeko Kuga alive with Alyssa as a little sister to Natsuki.

All this is exactly why the manga stands on it's own. Giving Saeko Kuga a bigger role made me so happy during my first read. And Takumi? Easily a superior Obsidian Lord than Reito.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by GAP on Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:26 am

Although I do respect the manga for dealing with several points, I just hate the fact it is a harem manga shone. If I wanted that, I read Negima and I hate that series. I am an Hime anime fan but I refuse to acknowledge the Carnival arc.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Highman on Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:48 am

GAP wrote:Although I do respect the manga for dealing with several points, I just hate the fact it is a harem manga shone. If I wanted that, I read Negima and I hate that series. I am an Hime anime fan but I refuse to acknowledge the Carnival arc.

Fact: HiMEsentai would beat Negima's rivals completely unless you take the opposite.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by AtlantisLux on Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:18 pm

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:

All this is exactly why the manga stands on it's own. Giving Saeko Kuga a bigger role made me so happy during my first read. And Takumi? Easily a superior Obsidian Lord than Reito.


I agree with you!
I still prefer the anime versus the manga, that has been a nice read, though. Some characters perform even better in the manga, like Takumi and Mashiro. And Haruka/Yukino combined Childs are pure win Razz
I prefer to forget about Natsuki, though. Romantic triangles are not my piece of cake, and the one she's involved in gives me shivers.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by GAP on Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:10 pm

I agree mostly except for the Takumi Obsidian Lord part, it actually comes off as kind of creepy to me and just too sudden for me.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Highman on Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:18 am

GAP wrote:I agree mostly except for the Takumi Obsidian Lord part, it actually comes off as kind of creepy to me and just too sudden for me.

Takumi should been the OL in EXA on my opinion

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Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:54 am

Highman wrote:Takumi should been the OL in EXA on my opinion

Maybe if the manga were more popular, the idea would of been considered. Have to admit, Reito did have some intense scenes in EXA compared to the anime where he was just being Reito, 'cept eeeeeevil.

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Post by Highman on Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:24 am

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:
Highman wrote:Takumi should been the OL in EXA on my opinion

Maybe if the manga were more popular, the idea would of been considered. Have to admit, Reito did have some intense scenes in EXA compared to the anime where he was just being Reito, 'cept eeeeeevil.

The manga is popular sadly it didn't reach enough sales. Reito didn't know he had OL for EXA but he did knew in the anime. Really pretty skeptical about Minagi dark pasts. Really interested to see what will Minagi purpose, Fuuka and Materializing System.

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Post by Abicion on Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:50 am

GAP wrote:I agree mostly except for the Takumi Obsidian Lord part, it actually comes off as kind of creepy to me and just too sudden for me.
What's not ingenious about Obsidian Takumi, though? Mai has dedicated her very being to protecting Takumi. OL wants her on his side, so the most logical way he can win her over is "Do as I say and your brother will never die."

Also,

it actually comes off as kind of creepy to me
You're criticizing the story for doing exactly what it was supposed to do.

Is it cruel? Yes. Is it desecrating how OL's followers steal Takumi's body from the morgue? Obviously. Is it arguably incestuous how he basically wants to use Takumi's body to bump uglies with Mai? Absolutely, and every bit of it is perfectly in line with the kind of character Obsidian Lord is supposed to be. He's an ageless Demon King with a world rebirth agenda and no time for silly human morals.

And it's "too sudden?" How is it any worse than "Hey guys, we're going to be radically different characters now" Reito and Mikoto in the animated version?

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Post by AtlantisLux on Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:51 am

@Abicion I agree, that's also why Takumi as the OL is a character much more interesting than Reito. There was something in Reito who could actually told you there was something wrong in him, while Takumi was perfectly innocent till the moment the OL picked him up from the morgue.
As much as I don't like the evil guy turned good, I totally adore its wicked reversal. And what is creepier than to transform a weak, pathetic boy into a monster with no moral? <3

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Post by GAP on Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:11 am

It could be utilized well however it felt rushed to me, I am probably not used to manga fomrat.

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Post by The Fire Stirring Ruby on Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:35 am

Well, I like Takumi better as OL than Reito.
I agree with Abicion.

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Re: Mai-HiME: Manga or Anime?

Post by Highman on Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:17 am

Abicion wrote:
GAP wrote:I agree mostly except for the Takumi Obsidian Lord part, it actually comes off as kind of creepy to me and just too sudden for me.
What's not ingenious about Obsidian Takumi, though? Mai has dedicated her very being to protecting Takumi. OL wants her on his side, so the most logical way he can win her over is "Do as I say and your brother will never die."

Also,

it actually comes off as kind of creepy to me
You're criticizing the story for doing exactly what it was supposed to do.

Is it cruel? Yes. Is it desecrating how OL's followers steal Takumi's body from the morgue? Obviously. Is it arguably incestuous how he basically wants to use Takumi's body to bump uglies with Mai? Absolutely, and every bit of it is perfectly in line with the kind of character Obsidian Lord is supposed to be. He's an ageless Demon King with a world rebirth agenda and no time for silly human morals.

And it's "too sudden?" How is it any worse than "Hey guys, we're going to be radically different characters now" Reito and Mikoto in the animated version?

OL is smalltime and never was supposed to be taken seriously.

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