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Post by shikiryougi on Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:12 pm

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:
shezaei-neko wrote:What about Sasameki Koto?

I think that's also kinda appropriate. What do you think, Luu?

It's tame yes, but something tells me Shiki will be offended by Sumika's constant desire to have sex with Kazama. i.e. The handkerchief smelling scene would drive her into anti-gay overdrive. makoto 
sweatdrop  nice try shezaei-neko but maybe something else?

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Post by shezaei-neko on Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:04 pm

XD
I totally forgot that scene. My bad.

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Re: yaoi haters/lovers

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:56 pm

All we can recommend from here is series with light yuri subtext at best. Try Love Live! sometime. Otherwise, you're just not cut out for yuri viewing. It's amazing that you tolerate Mai-HiME and Mai-Otome! haha!

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Post by shezaei-neko on Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:41 pm

Maybe recommend a slight shoujo-ai manga too?
Those are "easier" to find than anime. XD

Also, well, let's remember that in Maria-sama ga miteru, the girls pray to Virgin Mary at school, and this is a shoujo-ai series. Hope that won't cause much a conflict... 

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Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:54 pm

I agree. Shiki, give Maria-sama ga miteru a try. You can find it easily on any anime streaming site if you search on google or maybe there are some episodes on YouTube. If you're still offended...then you are definitely a Yukariko.

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Post by shezaei-neko on Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:00 pm

Yukariko : We need more pure souls in this sinful place.

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Re: yaoi haters/lovers

Post by shikiryougi on Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:45 am

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:All we can recommend from here is series with light yuri subtext at best. Try Love Live! sometime. Otherwise, you're just not cut out for yuri viewing. It's amazing that you tolerate Mai-HiME and Mai-Otome! haha!
what!? how come I didn't see any of the sort in the Mai series? well I didn't see that coming
by the way I've already watched Love Live. some of the characters (from u's) seem a little too inappropriately sexy and like TEMPTRESSES :pale: sweatdrop (vomits)

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Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:11 pm

shikiryougi wrote:what!? how come I didn't see any of the sort in the Mai series? well I didn't see that coming by the way I've already watched Love Live. some of the characters (from u's) seem a little too inappropriately sexy and like TEMPTRESSES :pale: sweatdrop (vomits)
*laughs* Then honestly there's no need to recommend anymore series. The slightest subtext will drive you batshit crazy. Maybe years down the road, you'll learn to appreciate yuri. Wink Lesbian love is beautiful in all regards. At twelve years old, I can see why you would...regurgitate. You don't understand just yet. Viola 

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Post by shezaei-neko on Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:07 pm

Yeah. Better avoid any yuri series with or without subtext at all.
So, just skip Maria-sama ga miteru 'til you feel ready.

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Post by shikiryougi on Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:45 am

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:
shikiryougi wrote:what!? how come I didn't see any of the sort in the Mai series? well I didn't see that coming by the way I've already watched Love Live. some of the characters (from u's) seem a little too inappropriately sexy and like TEMPTRESSES :pale: sweatdrop (vomits)
*laughs* Then honestly there's no need to recommend anymore series. The slightest subtext will drive you batshit crazy. Maybe years down the road, you'll learn to appreciate yuri. ;)Lesbian love is beautiful in all regards. At twelve years old, I can see why you would...regurgitate. You don't understand just yet. Viola 
you bet I don't understand! i'll never understand those weirdos!

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Re: yaoi haters/lovers

Post by Kuga Natsuki on Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:19 pm

That's it, I can't take it anymore. Someone ban this "child", plz Akira Okuzaki 

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Re: yaoi haters/lovers

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:57 pm

shikiryougi wrote:you bet I  don't understand! i'll never understand those weirdos!



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Because I had one of the greatest days all summer, you will only be banned a week. Just remember Shiki, this is a place where we respect human beings of all kinds. You can think about that while you're banned. As an additional punishment, you will sit there and read what your peers think about your views.

That's right, you are all granted permission to say something against Shiki's opinion, if desired. Just remember to keep it short and return back on topic.

This is your last warning though, Shiki. If your week long ban doesn't humble, then you're gone. Forever.

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Post by shezaei-neko on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:03 pm

XD LOL!
Ohgawd!! Those Peter Pan captions... they cracked me up...



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Re: yaoi haters/lovers

Post by Kuga Natsuki on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:12 pm

I'm okay for Shiki to think that homosexuality is strange to her, but I do not respect opinions of negativity towards homosexuality, such as insulting people just because they're gay. I have a lot of gay friends, and some gay family members, and it really angers me when someone speaks negative towards homosexuals.

Shiki, if you find homosexuality strange, or if you don't like homosexuality, that's okay, but show some respect and honor, for Pete's sake. Homosexuals, pansexuals, asexuals, whateversexuals, we're all homo sapiens -_-

In short, we cannot be acquaintances Feels And may I add...









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Post by franticfranz on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:34 pm

IMO:
Ain't here to rant, and I won't take sides either. I don't like doing that, first of all.

Shiki, I was once in your spot, too. I have to admit, that I somehow hated homosexuals during my childhood because of a personal experience. I couldn't (for the life of me) understand them. Even told myself once that I wouldn't dare. My sister got disowned because of getting into a relationship with one. Only to find out that her lover did nothing but to beat her up. I honestly felt bitter and generalized that all of them are evil, they're parasites, etc. However, as I grew old, I have come to realize so late that...I am ending up being one, too. I don't know if it's just plain karma or what...but, yeah. I am admitting that I am also...gay.

You know what hurts the most? Most of my family members don't know. They may be having hints already and they just don't want to ask. I certainly don't know. It also pains me that I couldn't be more open about it because of the fear of rejection. Since then, I finally understood the fact that homosexuals are still human beings. They can feel, they also deserve the same respect that heterosexuals receive. Believe me, I'm from a country where being part of the LGBT community is such an issue due to our religion. I personally believe that religion and state should be separate and therefore, all humans (regardless of what they are) should be treated with fairness and respect.

I don't have hard feelings toward you. I perfectly understand. It's just that, we need to be reminded of our boundaries. We have to be vigilant, to avoid crossing the line again.

PEACE!  :)


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Re: yaoi haters/lovers

Post by GoldenSun13 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:39 am

At your age, I was kinda the same as you. My family is deeply religious, so I saw being gay as a sin. I however respected gay people even though the thought of a woman coming onto me made me feel weird... Nowadays, I have accepted my homosexuality and become an open minded person. I don't automatically hate people because of their sexuality, I hate them for their bigoted and often ignorant view points.

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but you seem to be emulating the view points of your family and not forming ones of your own. Truly think about what it is for two men, or two women to fall in love with each other and form an opinion on that, not on the thoughts of others.
Please, never insult a whole group of people who you do not understand, especially on a forum which is loved by it's members for it's openness to all people; especially the gay community.


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Post by The Fire Stirring Ruby on Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:05 am

franticfranz wrote:I'm from a country where being part of the LGBT community is such an issue due to our religion.
Franz and I came from the same country, so it is a big issue here for us.

I also came from that situation, Shiki. There were many times a few years ago where I have disliked the LGBT people (not the MM forums, just to clarify that). I didn't understand why people are... um... like that back then. I did not accept them, because I think they are: 1) unacceptable, 2) they are unacceptable and 3) they are unacceptable. And probably because I thought they are a bunch of flirts, especially the gays here.

It took a long while before I could accept them wholeheartedly, see. It was just last year when that metanoia happened. You will learn to know that these people are people, too. Even though you hate/dislike (or whatever is the appropriate term) them, please remember to bring your respect for them. We cannot force them to stop being who they are, because it is who they really are. It is also a form of freedom: the freedom to express themselves. We cannot forbid them of their right.

You're still young, and you still have a long way to go. Experiences will change your views, that much I could tell you. Hopefully, we will come to an understanding.
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Anyway, on-topic... I prefer yuri series than yaoi, for reasons unknown. There are two notable anime series with yaoi subtext is Kuroko no Basuke and Free! - Iwatobi Swim Club.

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Post by Kuga Natsuki on Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:07 pm

I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't really understand homosexuality at a young age! I admit that I also was against homosexuality, because it was all new to me, and therefore I didn't understand it, but a few years later, I started to accept homosexuality. I learned a valuable lesson. The famous musical RENT made me change my mind, and I'm glad it did. Nowadays gay people have my utmost respect and I couldn't even give more of a crap what sexual orientation one is - heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual, asexual, pansexual, you are who, how and what you are :)

Aaaaaanywho, back to topic, I got tired of yaoi pretty quickly XD It kind of bothers me that yaoi overshadows yuri, and I get uncomfortable about a certain position that happens when two men love each other >:3 But do I HATE yaoi? Nope, not at all :)

... I also got tired of yuri XD Not a fan of the chibi yuri anime shows, but despite what I stated, I still respect yaoi and yuri, and can like it if met by my standards (it's called open-mindedness, Shiki :3). Artists like Eugene and Mentaiko, I admit, I do like their art, and that's because they really can draw and add a lot of complex detail :) It's not the smut I fully look into, but the quality

Some people can like and respect things even if the big picture doesn't meet all of their standards. It's like saying one doesn't like anime, but at the same time greatly respects anime because of its art or culture :) You don't have to be straight to like just hentai, and you don't have to be gay just to like yaoi and/or yuri. I'm probably the only asexual member on this forum, but regardless my (a)sexuality, I respect the sub-genres in the anime world

Hell, I watch hentai just for the epic lulz because the dubs really crack me up XDDDD

That's something for you to learn as well, Shiki :)

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Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:37 pm

As you can see, Shiki, these people invoke tolerance and acceptance. Why can't you? You're supposed to be the newer generation who shouldn't make the mistakes that made the past so toxic for people of any sexuality different from heterosexuality.

The best time for change is now while you still can. Listen to the girls above, they know what they're talking about.

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Post by franticfranz on Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:10 pm

The Fire Stirring Ruby wrote:Franz and I came from the same country, so it is a big issue here for us.
I know right? And to think I used to be a servant of the Lord back in the day. Not that I am not a devout believer anymore, but I honestly admit that everything's a conflict for me right now. Geez.

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Anyway, on topic. I haven't watched much yaoi, but I don't hate it. In fact, here in our country there's a TV series which uses yaoi / bishonen as a theme (which makes it a subject of controversy). I've also watched a Chinese movie in the past called "Amphetamine." It's about a drug-dependent businessman who fell in love with a gay gym instructor.

Yuri, on the other hand, is something I enjoy watching a lot. I don't know, there's something in the yuri genre that touches my heart, no matter what kind of style or story there is to it. I enjoy the ones with yuri subtext the most, because it makes me imagine and think outside the box. Series with yuri as a central theme are also fine, but I just don't like it when things become complicated. Well, it's meant to be that way. I know so, because of personal experiences still. :)

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Post by Kuga Natsuki on Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:43 am

Seems to be lots of yuri fans here, which is no surprise at all XD

I wonder if there are any straight males here who respect yaoi, at least, and if there are any gay males here who respect yuri Akira Okuzaki You know, the irony that society thinks that doesn't exist Trollface 

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Post by The Fire Stirring Ruby on Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:08 am

franticfranz wrote:In fact, here in our country there's a TV series which uses yaoi / bishonen as a theme (which makes it a subject of controversy).
Is this My Husband's Lover?
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Anyway, on-topic. I feel more affinity to yuri than yaoi. I still don't feel comfortable with shows that have yaoi subtexts, but I don't hate them. As what I have mentioned earlier, there are only two notable shows in which the yaoi subtext is what I could tolerate the most: Kuroko no Basuke and Free! - Iwatobi Swim Club.

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Post by shezaei-neko on Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:42 pm

I have to admit that I was a bit reluctant on watching yuri until some years ago.

Sure, I've watched Sailor Moon so I knew that Haruka and Michiru had something but I was kind of afraid of accepting it since I thought of it as a "sin" (thanks to my religious teachings). Hell, any kind of yuri subtext kind of made me look away and say: "no, they can't be. I like them too much for them to be..."

But then, I started to mature mentally in that aspect. And it was very much thanks to ShizuNatsu and HimekoxChikane that I came to love yuri as much as I do now. And there I understood that I love is love not mattering the gender. And it could be so pure as it showed me.

However, even if it took me a while to understand this. I never referred to any person with different sexual preference the way you SHIKI did. Calling them weirdos, saying I'd vomit if I saw them, and so on. That plain immature. This is all about tolerance and respect. You don't like them, well, just turn around and let them be! They are human beings just as you.

And I'm very happy to say that as a catholic, what the Pope said about gays made me smile. He sure thinks different and is something someone should have said long ago.


To finish my rant...I just have to wonder, Shiki. What made you join this forum when it is filled with topics and people you might find uncomfortable with?


Back to topic...

Should I be surprised there's much more support in this forum to yuri rather than yaoi? XD

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Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:54 pm

I respect yaoi on the artistic sense. A lot of those doujinshi look stunning. Ruby-chan mentioned Free!, a series that was done by the same studio that brought you K-On!, so there's quality there. And of course there's absolutely nothing wrong with two men in love. That's where it ends for me, I just don't feel anything when two guys have sexual tension and chemistry in any series, be it anime/manga/TV/movies or comics.

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Post by shezaei-neko on Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:56 pm

I didn't know that the studio that made K-on! is doing Free! now.
I might watch the series at some point then...just like Hetaria!

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