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Zeitgeist Film Series, an eye opening revelation of how Governments [especially the U.S.A.] the Monetary Economy system, and Religion control Nations and the World.

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Post by midori's crazy398 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:30 pm

Hey guys. I recently came upon the documentary film series "Zeitgeist", which talks about the way the corporate elite control everything in the current day and age, as well as how these elite controlled events of the past to create the systems and values that we hold today. It also explains the way that U.S. banks control our government and manipulate other nations into feeding American interests. The series also touches on Religion and the way it is used to control people and give false hopes and comforts as well as make people feel guilty for having natural inclinations, and being human. Bellow are the links to each of the three documentaries. Of course, everyone will have their own opinions, so feel free to discuss them after watching any of the films bellow. Enjoy... Akira Okuzaki

Zeitgeist:Addendum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EewGMBOB4Gg

Zeitgiest: The Movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrHeg77LF4Y&feature=plcp

Zeitgeist: Moving Foward
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

I understand that these video's show one side of a many sided argument over the subjects that the film portrays. Therefore i am not suggesting that these video's are the only truth to these matters. I encourage an open mind for all of you who view this content, and encourage you to still be considerate for believer's of religion,and patriot's.
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Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:20 pm

I'll give these a watch sometime, but it brought something to my attention. How many of you think we should have a thread dedicated solely to politics? I'll allow it, as long as you're respectful of each others opinion. No matter how much you disagree with it. The goal is to tell us where YOU stand, rather than shove your opinion or "truth" down our throats.

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Post by midori's crazy398 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:37 pm

@Luu

I think it would be a good idea, we could all discuss our opinions and vent out our stress from the acts of Politics. Plus I think there would definitely be some good rants to discuss. It's a yes from me.
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Post by BMeph on Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:39 am

midori's crazy398 wrote:Hey guys. I recently came upon the documentary film series "Zeitgeist", ...

I'm hesitant about it. I haven't seen it in its context, only excerpts (from a supporter, but still, excerpts). It reminds me of what folks say about Dan Brown's stuff: if you know the topic he's talking about, you know he doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm not sure if the Zeitgeist stuff is as bad, but the excerpts I saw were that bad.

I'm more than happy to look at the stuff with an open mind, it's just not going to be so open that I let my brains fall out.

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:I'll give these a watch sometime, but it brought something to my attention. How many of you think we should have a thread dedicated solely to politics? I'll allow it, as long as you're respectful of each others opinion. No matter how much you disagree with it. The goal is to tell us where YOU stand, rather than shove your opinion or "truth" down our throats.

I think politics is not a bad thing, I just find it empty. If you bundled religion and politics together, it'd hold more "bite," more promise for me, if only because I'd know (or would I? Wink ) that the topic was to be taken seriously. On the other hand, some people hate to have an actual debate, where viewpoints are to get discussed, and weighed for content. Some people hate the very idea that some opinions may have a basis in fact and be, even slightly, "better" than another. Some people hate the idea of losing an argument and being "forced" to give up an idea more than they'd like the rush of "winning an argument." (As an aside, I an absolutely not - AT ALL - thinking of anyone in particular as I bring up these points, so I'm double-definitely (?) not thinking of anyone in particular here.)

I don't think it's a bad idea per se, I just don't see it being a good idea with this crowd. I could be totally wrong, though, so you could always try it. I could always use a good laugh. Wink
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Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:45 pm

You do bring up good points. I can only see them becoming true if our members succumb to chaos at the first sign of disagreement. I'll need more opinions before I can green light this. :)

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Post by Defiant on Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:02 pm

Politics is not a bad thing to disscuss if you don´t take it too seriously :)
I mean in Czech rep. (and I think central Europe shares similar opinion) every politician is seen as a corupt bastard and a public enemy (which has its plus and cons) and that in many cases is absolutely true...
there was a huge case few month ago when police caught a congressman (and a hetman of central Bohemia) with 7 mil CZK (=+-450 000 dollars) in a wine box, a money from few prominent businessmen who in exchange were given deluxe-paid contracts financed by EU and state. It was a perfect police work, since politicians has immunity unless caught "In flagranti delicto".
And our current president has set a goal to embarass our country as much as possible :D

But honestly I was in bit of a shock by US-political system, especially by how much religion is taking effect on it. I mean I live in a one in top-10 most atheistic countries but I don´t see Poland (which is in top Europe religious countries) do so much fuss about gays and "Evolution is just theory". Well I am speaking mostly about republicans, but still its a bit disturbing that 1 of 2 US parties has this "kind of crazy" thinking. Also I really hate that "politicaly correct stuff"...I dont mean to offend anyone but I also wont say that grass is not green just because someone will get offended by it.
Ok, I really hope I didnt offend anyone by my view :D

Oh, and I vote "Czech Pirate party" :)
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Post by ShadowMikoto on Sun May 21, 2017 12:25 am

As my comment to the Opening Post, I think a lot of control run by the higher ups... or the (elites) as termed here, are really necessary to maintain systematic structure within the world, that keeps humans under certain protections from the disorganization that would more than likely occur had there not been a Pillar of Structure organizing where time is spend.

One of my strongest study suits is in philosophy, but I am personally awful at holding political discussions. Even so, as a philosopher, I do understand the more deeper reasons as to why it would appear at first glance as if the government is in fact controlling what goes into it based on the information we are given to develop the way we understand and think today in modern times.

Call me a Banana, but I know what it's like to be outside a system of curriculum. The first thing that happens (at least to me) is an increase of: despair, emptiness, and mental health in general. Without governmental control (or without a Pillar of governance) humanity would slowly decline into a state of boredom which would result from the lack of Structure which the government sustains (as the worlds Pillar of organized control) which would then lead to more violence and war as a result of there being no government support.

Crime would certainly increase because there would be zero suppressing of it by a government control, so basically it would be a lawless world, and that is the only thing that is really stopping a lot of Crazies out there from doing more damage than what has already been committed throughout the ages.

The government needs to act as a Pillar of Support in this sense because, like we all know, so does it, that the world is outrageously violent, due to our embedded animal instincts to crave drawing blood with the sword, which is sighted throughout the entire history of humanity all the way down to the times of the ancients...

When it's thought this way, we can see why professional fighting is a popular On Demand Paper-View fighting sport in the world today, it allows people to punch each other, and knock each other out, "professionally", under controlled conditions, as another way of suppressing these exact cravings to hurt the fellow man with physical conflicting so that it is not utilized outside of the Camera. So to speak. Which would be war.

If there was no government control there would then be free to just live life the way we all want day by day. At which point the benefit would be upon those with great week by week time-management skills vs those who would just want to fuck around every day. However, because of the increase of freedom (in that regard) to basically just do and get whatever the fuck we want at any fucking time we want to do it. *Wipes spit from mouth* Sorry, I'm getting a little into this right now. XD

Then the idea there would be that there would be an overall increase of depression and anger based on the lack of Structure, which gives us an objective ... a responsibility ... a reason to get out of fucking bed! XD

At the same time... it always made me wonder why we, as humans, could not at least venture in this direction. To just live with more freedom under maybe one rule that we have to spend our time as productively as possible. Because this is clearly not the case, it does make it semi apparent that there is a Manipulation at work, that takes the appearance of Control. Yet, without it, I'd imagine it'd be like Cephiro without Emeraude, which resulted in monsters roaming around on that world along with increased despair and darkness of the heart.

^ We all know where I get my ideas. XD

Anyway this is just my two-cents on it, and I am not even scratching the surface of the "Importance's" of Governmental 'Pillar' Control, but this is at least a theory of mine on it so to speak, as a non-'conspiratorial' way of understanding why we are basically slaves to earning a living until the time of retirement.
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