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Something I thought about Mai's disappearance

Post by Ris on Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:55 am

I was reading a doujin I bought set during Natsuki/Shizuru/Mai/Haruka's time as students at Garderobe (which I hope to translate at some point.) And it got me thinking about their school days and how the explanation for Mai's disappearance in omake 8 seems kind of inadequate.

Shizuru often mentions how she was like Tomoe when she was younger, and everyone always takes this to mean that younger Viola was actually like Fujino. But maybe it means that younger Viola really was like Tomoe, and favored Tomoe's indirect, sneaky approach to sabotaging her rivals rather than Fujino's approach of direct confrontation (at least during the carnival.)

And then I thought about the scenario at the time of the column selection during Natsuki/Mai's pearl year. Shizuru would have already been selected as a column a year earlier. That year, Mai was selected as a column, but happened to disappear. The consequence of this was that Natsuki was selected as a column instead, allowing her and Shizuru to stay together at Garderobe rather than Natsuki needing to become a meister for Aries.

And then suddenly Mai accidentally getting lost doesn't seem so accidental anymore.


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Re: Something I thought about Mai's disappearance

Post by iRenji0713 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:30 am

Somehow, it makes sense. :D
Viola isn't someone who is gonna let honesty get the better of her relationship with Kruger, aye?
And most definitely, if I were in Viola's position at that time, I would have done what you are implying too.
Viola: "Seeing my dear Natsuki become a meister for Aries is definitely not something I could live with."
Mai: *going outside* "Me..? But I don't want to be a column... I can't..."
Viola: *sees Mai* "Ehehehe, it seems like I don't have to part ways with Natsuki after all~! Sorry Mai, but you'll have to disappear. That way, my dear Natsuki would be the one who'll become a column~!"
And everyone'll probably get what happens next. XD

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Re: Something I thought about Mai's disappearance

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:11 pm

That could further explain why Mai decided to take off..interesting. On the point of Viola mentioning she was like Tomoe when younger (and vice versa in episode 25), this could also be accurate. I see Shizuru as the older, more lustful student who fell in love with the fresh new face in Natsuki. Shades of Shizuma and Nagisa, perhaps?

When Tomoe mentioned in episode 25 that her and Shizuru were a lot alike, not once did I believe she was referring to Shizuru Fujino as some sort of 4th wall implication. Either somebody's been feeding old war stories to Tomoe or she just magically assumes their similarities based on her "Shizuru-oneesama" playing her like a harp from Hell.

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Re: Something I thought about Mai's disappearance

Post by Twisted Eternal Wolvetta on Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:08 pm

This wouldn't surprise me if this theory was canon. I've always strained upon the fact that truly Viola is an undercover villain, this brainstorm merely enhances it. It makes me wonder whether it was Viola whom suggested to Mai to go off and think carefully about her placement of choosing between either being a Column (most likely Miss Maria would have chosen Mai to be the Gakuenchou due to her nature, intelligence, fighting ability and talent unlike Natsuki, who we all know can be very soft and dislikes injuring someone - something, which you can't think of during war) or Takumi's Otome back in Zipang.

If this is to be the case however, I'm not sure whether Viola would've expected Mai to disappear, but she would have known at the time of Mai's deep loyalty and dedication to both her country and family, so Viola would have expected Mai to go back home than stay at Garderobe alone.

There is confusion to Mikoto and Mai however, because there is a highly important event which took place before Mai might have even been born.

During the era of Sifr, it appears that Mikoto also knew Mai's mother, but recently I've come up with another theory. Although it is by a long shot a ridiculous amount. but after all, you never know when it comes to Sunrise.


Mai's mother, or a sort of "mirror image" to how Mikoto (being the Crystal HiME and being one of the same to HiME-Mikoto) might have imagined Mai before meeting her incarnation in Earl.

However, it is clear to see that Mai had two different mothers (theory from Cheshire Katniss) - Mai's mother here looks completely different to the one from HiME, after all.

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Re: Something I thought about Mai's disappearance

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:19 pm

Chancellor Wolvetta, please allow me to see Kat's theory so I can properly wrap my finger around it.

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Re: Something I thought about Mai's disappearance

Post by Cheshire Kat on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:32 pm

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:Chancellor Wolvetta, please allow me to see Kat's theory so I can properly wrap my finger around it.

Mister Luu, I am here to tell ya meself. >;3

I noticed how Mai has two completely different mothers in Otome and HiME, so I immediately though with my little lesbian brain: "OH MY GOD MAI HAS LESBIAN PARENTS SFDHGLSFDKKDHSL" and then spazzed it at Wolvy. c:

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Re: Something I thought about Mai's disappearance

Post by Luu Sky Sapphire on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:41 pm

Cheshire Katniss wrote:Mister Luu, I am here to tell ya meself. >;3

I noticed how Mai has two completely different mothers in Otome and HiME, so I immediately though with my little lesbian brain: "OH MY GOD MAI HAS LESBIAN PARENTS SFDHGLSFDKKDHSL" and then spazzed it at Wolvy. c:

You have a good point there, Senator Katniss. But wait, wouldn't that mean Mai Tokiha from Otome is the same as Mai Tokiha from Mai-HiME? Was that Garderobe class photo of a young Mai a fake?!

Ugh, I'm so confused. But wait, there's more!

Mai never mentioned having a mother in Mai-Otome. Could it be that the girl in that Sifr era image IS Mai?

Ugh, I'm so confused. But wait, there's more!

If that is indeed the same Mai all around, then she shares the same immortality as Cat Goddess Mikoto? It makes sense when you consider Sunrise took two of Mai-HiME's top draws...

( ShizNat2 <---- Um...ha ha. Very funny.))

...and hid them in the shadows. Maybe it was intentional for Mai Tokiha to have an air of mystery? Perhaps we'll never know anything about Mai Tokiha post-HiME thanks to Sunrise feeding us events that we'll never get to see because they feel Gundams are a barrel of monkeys.

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Re: Something I thought about Mai's disappearance

Post by Twisted Eternal Wolvetta on Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:23 pm

You have to think also; for where Mai and Mikoto are located in Cat God Mountain, it has been sealed in time by the Harmonium as well - so truthfully... there is a chance Mai is immortal also. You just never know.

Mikoto: "Mh! Mai! I'm going to make you appear younger so you can go to Garderobe and see Natsuki again! Mh, mh! Just make sure to come back to feed me ramen!"

Although there is something else I've noticed;


Thirteen pillars surround the Fumi System, and not one is up. Perhaps it is just an easter egg, but you never know.

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Whoops... I think I'm confusing my theories with canon here, I've forgotten whether the Harmonium has time manipulation. LOL; guess I've found my answer into what I should do for Monday.

*Idly watches the whole of the Mai Otome Series*. I NEED TO DO IT ANYHOW FOR MANY REASONS.

Korra sad Extra Korra.

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Re: Something I thought about Mai's disappearance

Post by The Fire Stirring Ruby on Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:30 pm

Ris wrote:And then suddenly Mai accidentally getting lost doesn't seem so accidental anymore.

Quite right. If we were to refer to the omake 8 of the Mai-Otome, Mai said that she kept walking and walking... It seems plausible that Shizuru was the one who made her consider everything.

Concluding that Miss Maria preferred or prefers the number one Pearl to be enlisted as Columns, it means that Miss Maria wasn't really in favor of Natsuki but to Mai. So when Mai disappeared on that night, Natsuki had the opportunity of becoming the Column.

It may seem that Mai didn't actually took a walk to reconsider everything, it was sort of an escape from being an Otome for her philanthropist/sponsor, maybe even for Zipang, and being a Column. She didn't want to have the heavy responsibility as a Column nor being an Otome for a master she barely knew. Also, she wouldn't endanger her brother's life if was to become his Otome, right? He has failing health!

Luu Sky Sapphire wrote:Mai never mentioned having a mother in Mai-Otome. Could it be that the girl in that Sifr era image IS Mai?

It is quite obvious that the girl with the Fire String Ruby (or Fire Stirring Ruby) wasn't Mai, but possibly her mother just as Una and Irma could be Shizuru and Natsuki's mothers respectively. Bloodline passes down and many traits can be added or just dormant, so it is possible that Mai from Mai-Otome had a completely other mother than to her counterpart in Mai-HiME.

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